Why Did Jesus Fold the Napkin?

[Johnny C]

It's the "scorched" thing, DD, that bugs me about that shroud, whatever it may be.  Why would a scorching be involved?  Was there any sort of "scorching" when Christ, the apostles, and the prophets of old had a hand in bringing life to a lifeless soul?..

Is "scorched" scriptural?..

[DaDad]

Dearest JC,

Light is energy. Brilliant light is intense energy.  A scorch is evidence of intense energy.  This scorch was not only a "negative" (as a scorch should be), but also a hologram (visible by use of a " L A S E R " LOL). 


WABR,
DD 

[Johnny C]

Were the Roman guard "scorched" by the arrival of that light from heaven, DD?..

[Debz]

He was inside, they were outside, with how many inches/feet of stone between them?

[DaDad]

Dearest All,

For those interested, this evenings edition of "Bill O'Reilly" has a brief segment on the Shroud.  There are two aspects which I was unaware of, and found interesting.


WABR,
DD   


And a brief note to JC:

Hey JC, 

Actually this same intense light permeated the the very stone which separated the LORD from the world.  Its very luminescence  was sufficient to either temporarily or even permanently blind those in immediate proximity.  Fortunately they were asleep and had their eyes closed.  ROFL

DD   

[DaDad]

 
Dearest All,

Please consider the mere fact that the Shroud of Turin exhibits a "folded" characteristic, as scriptural evidence of that validity.



With Absolute Best Regards,
DaDad    (DD)         

[Josie]

Brother Perry Stone coverd this topic! but i forgot what all he said.
i'll look it up.
Thanks for bringing it up!

[DaDad]

Dearest Josie,

Please be aware that by "folded",  -- the bottom edge begins at HIS feet, the middle portion at HIS head, and the "top" edge back at HIS feet.  Thus the shroud is "folded" over HIM.

And such was the empty shroud when John and Peter entered the tomb, folded upon itself as it had been previously folded upon the LORD, -- i.e., it had not been disturbed from original placement. 




Either the above, or possibly Jesus was a very meticulous person, and possibly also washed, ironed, and folded it when he ascended.   LOL

With Absolute Best Regards,
DaDad   

 

[daq]

Isaiah 66:7-8 KJV
7. Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered (#4422 malat) of a man child.
8. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Strong's Ref. #4422
Romanized  malat
Pronounced maw-lat'
a primitive root; properly, to be smooth, i.e. (by implication) to escape (as if by slipperiness); causatively, to release or rescue; specifically, to bring forth young, emit sparks:
KJV--deliver (self), escape, lay, leap out, let alone, let go, preserve, save, X speedily, X surely.

 

[grace_for_him]

In the travail of her soul, Zion brought forth .... in the laying down of one's life upon the altar .... of everything that is dear and precious. The things that are hardest to let go of are the things you love the most, but resurrection life only comes out of death.

And in the travail of the soulish it may seem there will be no deliverance, as in the analogy of childbirth .... but we that have that hope, know that He is able to perfect that which concerns us as we stay committed to his calling and purposes.

I like what comes out there in the meaning ... to deliver self, escape, to bring forth and emit sparks of life. That which is mortal being put to death .. so that which is immortal may be brought forth.

The narrow path, a lonely path, but transcendant in the end for all who give their all (however costly and painful) to follow the Master.       


[daq]

Amen Grace!
And the man-child nation of Isaiah 66 is "born" in the same manner in which the Man-Child Himself was "delivered" from death. If you do a word search on #4422 "malat" you will find that most often it is used in the context of deliverance from the sword, judgment, plague, death, (i.e. salvation or "born anew") rather than the "delivery" of a physical birth. The idea of "emitting sparks" enters in by way of "the Sword" (typology of the Word and His power to "deliver").

Examples:

Genesis 19:15-17 KJV
15. And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
16. And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the L-rd being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
17. And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape (#4422 malat) for thy life; (#5315 nephesh) look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape (#4422 malat) to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

1 Samuel 27:1 KJV
1. And David said in his heart, I shall now perish one day by the hand of Saul: there is nothing better for me than that I should speedily (#4422) escape (#4422) into the land of the Philistines; and Saul shall despair of me, to seek me any more in any coast of Israel: so shall I escape (#4422) out of his hand.

John 5:20-21 KJV
20. For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
21. For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth (GSN#2227) them; even so the Son quickeneth (GSN#2227) whom he will.

What does it mean to be "quickened" according to the scripture?

Strong's Ref. #2227
Romanized  zoopoieo
Pronounced dzo-op-oy-eh'-o
from the same as GSN2226 and GSN4160; to (re-)vitalize (literally or figuratively):
KJV--make alive, give life, quicken.

Strong's Ref. #2226
Romanized  zoon
Pronounced dzo'-on
neuter of a derivative of GSN2198; a live thing, i.e. an animal:
KJV--beast.

Revelation 4:6 ASV
6. and before the throne, as it were a sea of glass like a crystal; and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, four living creatures (GSN#2226) full of eyes before and behind.

Ezekiel 1:13-14 KJV
13. As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
14. And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.

To be "quickened" is akin to HSN#4422  ~  "to emit sparks" 

[ronmorgen]

Why Did Jesus Fold the Napkin?

  because..........

The folded napkin meant, 'I'm coming back!'
He is Coming Back!!

Awesome,  I love treasure hunting in the word.

[grace_for_him]

Why Did Jesus Fold the Napkin?
  because..........
The folded napkin meant, 'I'm coming back!'
He is Coming Back!!

Awesome,  I love treasure hunting in the word.

Amen!!! He's coming back for a pure and  spotless bride without spot or wrinkle!

And so the birth of the manchild:

And the man-child nation of Isaiah 66 is "born" in the same manner in which the Man-Child Himself was "delivered" from death. If you do a word search on #4422 "malat" you will find that most often it is used in the context of deliverance from the sword, judgment, plague, death, (i.e. salvation or "born anew") rather than the "delivery" of a physical birth. The idea of "emitting sparks" enters in by way of "the Sword" (typology of the Word and His power to "deliver").

Therefore, .... the sword needs to divide between soul and spirit and deliver from death and generate the sparks of new life - Hallelujah!
Amen Daq!!!

The transition needs to come from that which is natural to that which is spiritual. Lot's wife looked back because her heart was back there  --  Lot knew not to look back but was only prepared to go a short distance and not all the way up the mountain, and so he settled for less than the calling given to him.

It takes time and effort to go all the way and not take an easier route:
"Indeed now your servant has found favour in your sight, and you have increased your mercy which you have shown me by saving my life; but I cannot escape to the mountains, lest some evil overtake me and I die. See now, this city is near enough to flee to, and it is a little one; let me please escape there (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live."  Genesis 19:19-20
.... relying upon his own strength and fearing the inhabitants of the land, he ended up still preserving the life of the soul and although a recipient of His grace, he disqualified himself from the greater blessing.

May the quickening power of His lightning cause us to run up the mountain and not grow faint - Amen?
Blessings to you WF!