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« on: March 07, 2010, 12:25:27 AM »

The consumation of the kingdom of antichrist will be a unification of ten nation states that hand their sovereinty over to the beast or Antichrist.
Seeing that this kingdom finally ends with ten, it stands to reason the the kingdom will have to begin with thirteen members (or more), as Daniel 7:24 states, he will subdue or reject, disgard three that will make the ten.
I do believe among the Euro using members of the EU this central core elite of ten will emerge.
Right at this moment we see occurring in Europe a sorting process among the euro using natons.
Sarkozy the French President is presently evaluating the fitness of the euro member states, now I'm wondering if he's the Antichrist, and three of these members that use the Euro will be kicked out of financial alignment to make up the final ten. There is also talk of Spain and Portugal dragging the Euro down.
Is this current news article a prophesy of Daniel, I believe it is.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-06/sarkozy-says-eu-must-back-greece-or-put-monetary-union-at-risk.html&ct=ga&cd=pqvahbeVFwY&usg=AFQjCNENDYlDeT2FfD4jrr_42H3avRq8OA
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 09:43:57 PM »

The consumation of the kingdom of antichrist will be a unification of ten nation states that hand their sovereinty over to the beast or Antichrist.
Seeing that this kingdom finally ends with ten, it stands to reason the the kingdom will have to begin with thirteen members (or more), as Daniel 7:24 states, he will subdue or reject, disgard three that will make the ten.
I do believe among the Euro using members of the EU this central core elite of ten will emerge.
Right at this moment we see occurring in Europe a sorting process among the euro using natons.
Sarkozy the French President is presently evaluating the fitness of the euro member states, now I'm wondering if he's the Antichrist, and three of these members that use the Euro will be kicked out of financial alignment to make up the final ten. There is also talk of Spain and Portugal dragging the Euro down.
Is this current news article a prophesy of Daniel, I believe it is.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-06/sarkozy-says-eu-must-back-greece-or-put-monetary-union-at-risk.html&ct=ga&cd=pqvahbeVFwY&usg=AFQjCNENDYlDeT2FfD4jrr_42H3avRq8OA

Hi meto, actually, I was thinking the same thing.   That the crisis with Greece and now Portugal could signal the coming of the 13 kings which the AC removes 3. 

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 07:13:12 PM »

there is a debate in the end time disscussion, that could Jerusalem  be the Harlot? rev 17-18
and the ten heads ten Arab nations.

instead of rome the vatican, and ten EU countrys, the counterfiet ? to divert our attension.?  johnny
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 11:07:17 PM »

Recently, there is a plan to disban the WEU ten nation EU defense force, which is pretty big.  Excerpt:  
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Paris, 2 April 2010 - On Wednesday President WALTER yesterday spoke at a hearing of the Belgian Senate Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee on CFSP and CSDP issues and on the future of parliamentary scrutiny of those EU policies, in the light of the recent announcement by the British Government to withdraw the United Kingdom from membership of WEU and the subsequent announcement by all 10 signatory states concerning the winding up of the organisation by the end of June 2011............

The rest of the article....

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presse/cp/2010/10_2010.php?PHPSESSID=f5b3459b0ce3931c63b25516b59bffc3


I haven't heard what will replace it.  But combined with the defaults of both Greece and Portugal,  I think the replacement could be the thirteen nations.   Or that in the talks there could be thirteen nations that are reduced by three.

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 10:18:59 AM »

The EU is in flux there's no doubt....It will be untill the Antichrist arrives I think.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 12:21:43 PM »

The EU is in flux there's no doubt....It will be untill the Antichrist arrives I think.
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"Untill the Antichrist arrives?"  Brother Charles, the Antichrist/Little Horn/Man of Sin/Son of Perdition has been among us since the days of Paul, and will perish at the consummation.  The Antichrist is almost 2000 years old (and no, this single-man foolishness cannot fly, as Paul also says "the Man of God" in his writings).   I hope you realize that the Antichrist has been among us all these years.   It is folly to put the Antichrist "exclusively" into the future.  If you do this, you are subscribing to the Jesuit Doctrine of Futurism, started by the Jesuit Cardinal Francisco Ribera and Robert Bellarmine in the 16th century as a result of the Council of Trent which commenced in 1545 to counter the Reformation.  (Deleted by moderator)  The research is overwhelming.  Read "Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers", Volume II (out of a 4 volume set, about 4,000 pages total), by Church Historian, Dr. LeRoy Edwin Froom.  This volume series has been heralded as one of the greatest works ever formulated on the history of the Church.

Yes, there is a degree of truth to a "future Antichrist".  But by this, it must be meant "it's SECOND manifestation".  In other words, although the Antichrist power is "among us" today, it is in its "wounded state" since Napoleon brought an end to the Papacy in 1798.  Although it's ecclesiastical power was restored in 1929 by Mussolini, it's temporal power over the kings is still crippled (wounded).  The "future application" is manifested when the the nations of the world give their power unto the Beast, and enforce her dogmas.   Although the Papacy is the one, through the Jesuit Order, pulling the strings behind the scenes, it is the Lamb Like Beast (the United States of America) that actually does the "enforcing", and "causing" all to worship the first beast before it "who's deadly wound was healed."
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 12:50:07 PM »

Lysimachus:
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I hope you realize that the Antichrist has been among us all these years.   It is folly to put the Antichrist "exclusively" into the future.
If you do this, you are subscribing to the Jesuit Doctrine of Futurism, started by the Jesuit Cardinal Francisco Ribera and Robert Bellarmine in the 16th century as a result of the Council of Trent which commenced in 1545 to counter the Reformation.   These evil Jesuits invented the doctrine of futurism, by placing the Antichrist EXCLUSIVELY into the future to get the heat off the Papacy as the identification of Antichrist.   The research is overwhelming.  Read "Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers", Volume II (out of a 4 volume set, about 4,000 pages total), by Church Historian, Dr. LeRoy Edwin Froom.  This volume series has been heralded as one of the greatest works ever formulated on the history of the Church.

Yes, there is a degree of truth to a "future Antichrist".  But by this, it must be meant "it's SECOND manifestation".  In other words, although the Antichrist power is "among us" today, it is in its "wounded state" since Napoleon brought an end to the Papacy in 1798.  Although it's ecclesiastical power was restored in 1929 by Mussolini, it's temporal power over the kings is still crippled (wounded).  The "future application" is manifested when the the nations of the world give their power unto the Beast, and enforce her dogmas.   Although the Papacy is the one, through the Jesuit Order, pulling the strings behind the scenes, it is the Lamb Like Beast (the United States of America) that actually does the "enforcing", and "causing" all to worship the first beast before it "who's deadly wound was healed."
AMEN brother!!
That is the truth!!

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Recall back to when Sata took Jesus up to the high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of this world and he (Satan) told Jesus that he would give all  of that to him IF he fall down and worship him. As we all know, Jesus declined Satan's offer..But does that mean the offer is still not on the table?
No, of course not..Best believe that someone or some group of people has decided to take him up on that offer. And these are the kings and rulers of this world that are hidden behind the scenes in these occults and secret societies carrying out the will of Satan, and thus leading to the fulfillment of prophecy.
As our brother Paul said, " the mystery of iniquity doth already work", and all of the people behind it has the spirit of 'antichrist', thus the kingdom of Antichrist is already established and in full operation to deceive the world and unite us all like Satan attempted with the Tower of Babel. And ever since the Father & Jesus came down and confounded the language, Satan has been working hard ever since to unite the world so that the world will worship him and not the Lord.

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2010, 12:53:29 PM »

Interesting post But Ill stick to The Antichrist making his debut along with the False Prophet at a future time yet unknown, As far as the spirit of the Antichrist, well it is alive and well and moving freely through the world.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2010, 01:00:13 PM »

post deleted by me.  Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 08:10:16 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2010, 02:46:25 PM »

Hi Lysimachus.  I remember you from the Exodus threads at EvC.  We were pretty much on the same page about Wyatt et als discovery etc.  

I have a question for you relative to this topic and the kingdom of antichrist.  Does your segment of Adventism teach that the ten horned beast of Revelation 13, Revelation 17, 18 and Daniel 7 are one and the same beast and is this ten horned beast the kingdom of antichrist?  
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 04:17:54 AM »

is this ten horned beast the kingdom of antichrist?  

YES.

Ten nations that give their sovereign authority to the beast or AC.
Coming soon, watch Nicholas Sarkozy (French President), new President of the G20 from Sept, plans to reform the global financial system, now I wonder just who he might be???????????
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 07:43:22 AM »

Satan, the beast, the little horn …. 6+6+6

All Middle Eastern, not Western

Daniel
7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

7:15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.

7:16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.

7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn [the Assyrian], which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.

8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

11:42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

11:43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Micah
5:5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

5:6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

Revelation
13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon  [satan] gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2010, 03:20:40 PM »



The Assyrian,

There are some false prophets getting around claiming a resurgent Iraqi or Babylon will soon rise with this Assyrian guy or AC, so they suppose, leading them as he comes to destroy the free world.
Unreal rubbish. The Wests' got all the power, weapons, surely that's obvious!
The AC has to be a Jew, to be a false Messiah, that's basic!

The term Assyrian is an alias or pseudonym, or by-name as it were.
France had Syria as a coloney in the 20th Century, due to their involvment over a long period in the setting up of the modern Syria the French have strong inner diplomatic involvment with this nation.
Hence the nick-name the Assyrian, sits well with Sarkozy as he's also a Jew, the potential Judas, and AC in my opinion.
Look it up about Syria and France, it should be on Wicki, or google it up.
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2010, 09:21:25 PM »

Your suggestion of a French “antichrist” is pure speculation just like all of the other picks from Europe that never materialize

Because you are looking in the wrong place …. wait and see

The Bible is the only reliable source for truth

The beast from the Middle East and his 10 other kings will defeat western capitalism hands down [Revelation 13:1-4; 17:16-18]; the Lord is going to make this happen  

I am quite well aware of global geopolitical settings of the present and of ancient times and I can tell you that the visions of the Bible prophets are focused upon the Middle East ..... past, present, and at the time of the end

Israel's enemies are the surrounding Islamic countries of the Middle East today and will be at the time of the end as recorded in the visions [Psalms 83; Ezekiel 38; Joel 2; 3; Micah 5]

Islamic terrorism will form the basis of the beast and his followers .... watch and see

The Bible prophets are never wrong
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